I think the damage from runes are more valuable than the slowing effect vs LM. 900 gold is just too much for a butt naked unit. Slayers can beat some infantry but for the cost I feel like I can always get something better. I tend to worry more about the disruptors and chariots but both chaos army types are dangerous. But definitely chaos can go extreme in a lot of different directions so it's a challenging matchup. The all-heavy-infantry envelop relatively slowly, particularly if you position your army to one side to start the fight (and you interrupt the timing of their envelopment with runes of wrath and rune) while your ranged units kill one pocket at a time. Re: the chaos army you mention I've actually had good success with that build vs those types of builds, though maybe a variant with one less crossbow or something. I usually like the runelord to slow down cav flank attacks though to protect my ranged contingent. Might be helpful too to have a tanky lord too so your units don't get as terrified in the late game. That's a good idea about the MA aura and LM. I simultaneously hear you on the slayer issues while also recognizing that they are a good all around unit in some matchups since they are pretty good vs some infantry as well as large and give you a little speed for flanking. You can take a super tight boxy elite army in a forest but then of course there's the inevitable arguments about who should fight who and where. can't see your own units, and then dwarf infantry can't really counter large entities by themselves so ironically they are even worse in a forest vs large. Forests just suck in this game in so many ways. Gyros can work and they can give some cover if you want to try a flame cannon but that's often not what you need. Going heavy on elite units might work but I've never found a smaller elite army good with any faction. Try to begin the the fight with the shielded warriors and flank with GW warriors. Sarthorial have the armor and debuff spell. When I'm playing as Chaos vs Dawi I pick Sarthorial and then a mix of 12 Chaos Warriors with and without GW + the Mirror Guard. Makes your Longbeards outlast Saurus Warriors with ease. My experience is that its at least as effective vs the low MA of Lizardmen. I noticed you brought the Lord with minus MA aura vs VC but not vs LM. Warriors with GW do the same job but I find them lackluster if your opponent goes heavy on infantry as well.

As long as you bring something to engage the front they do a great job flanking and attacking the rear. They have a place vs WE as well if you expect a 9 vs 9 ranged units duel. I think they do well vs DE as well to counter shades. I bring a lot vs both Beastmen and Skaven. I find them good vs light cav, non ap infantry and non armored monsters. Maybe add the slow effect to all slayers. RoR ones are on the other hand a staple unit in most match ups. Outside of gimmicky rush builds I can't come up with any situation I would bring a single one. What a waste of gold vs pretty much every faction.

Cannons and thunderers come to mind as they are so LoS dependent.

Some of my builds have absolutely smashed Chaos and Greenskins on one map only to be a total waste of time on other maps. Facing units like chariots on a map with lots of hills, forests and so on makes it so hard to deal with them. I didn't see (could have missed it) anything about that maps being your worst enemy. I mostly play kiting armies but come back to Dawi every once in a while when I want to beat my opponent in manly way!ДЄ few thoughts after I've compared your writing with my own experiences. 2K A Total War Saga: Thrones of Britannia.844 A Total War Saga: Fall of the Samurai.

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